Genesis 11 Chronology: Conclusions

If Egyptology and Biblical data were mutually exclusive, then I would have to side with Biblical historical accuracy. There is enough fluidity in both scientific dating and Egyptology that I have no worries about upsetting Biblical Historicity.

One will find as many interpretations and opinions about Egyptology as there are about the Biblical timeframe. If, for the sake of argument, both sources are mutually exclusive, why would historians side with Egyptology over Biblical documentation when the Bible has been proven historically accurate in hundreds of other ways? That would come down to theology, not Historical accuracy. If I had to make the choice, I would choose the documentation that is supported by both historical veracity and theological accountability. The Bible has proven itself more credible than any other source of ancient history. Because of that, my faith holds to the veracity of scripture over archeology.

Having said that, I do not believe that ancient historical data and Biblical data are mutually exclusive. I do not believe we have to pick one over the other in this issue. I believe one could interpret Egyptology data to match the Biblical records, and I also believe the opposite is true. The most reasonable approach allows for a little of both. The time and research put into the study of ancient history cannot be overlooked. But we must caution taking any human endever as flawless. In the absence of solid proof, we must choose neutral ground. While we wait for ancient dating methods to be more secure, and while we examine the best ways to understand scripture, we should not feel compelled to exclude either side. As evidence becomes clear we can make additional reasonable arguments.

It is my personal opinion that we should read the text of Genesis 11 under a new light. Rather than adding up the numbers we have textual indication that the author had a different intention. On the other hand, rather than ignoring the names or numbers in Genesis 11, we should allow for fluidity of ancient dating methods rather than outright denying the Genesis data. In the search for truth we must not defend an interpretation as higher value than the source itself. Truth will never contradict truth. Scripture as truth is perfectly compatible with the truth we find in nature and in history.

Genesis 11 Chronology – Solution Two

Conform Biblical Timeline to Egyptology

We must be willing to apply the same standards of historicity to the Biblical data as the Egyptian data. We must consider the possibility that the traditional understanding may not be what the author intended. If we misunderstand how to read the data in Genesis 11, then of course it will end in historical inaccuracy. Let us assume for this article that Egyptology has the best historical foundation for the earthly timeline. Let us consider what must happen within the text of scripture to comply with this proposed timeline.

One of the attempts to expand the Biblical timeline lies in the interpretation of the numbers themselves. The Septuagint gives different years to each person’s life. They might have had a different copy of the original or a different understanding of what the numbers meant. The numbers in the septuagint are often different. Differences could be due to the language barrier. Is the Masoretic text immune to this problem? Certainly the Hebrew manuscripts are more likely to be understood correctly by those who were closer to the language. But two thousand years pass from Moses’ life until the Masoretic texts. This considered, it is more likely that the Hebrew manuscripts accurately transmit the correct information rather than the Greek translation. But it is possible that both misunderstood how to accurately transmit the numbers. This is not, however, the position of this article.

Assuming the numbers themselves are accurate in our translations, some try to change the interpretation of how to apply them. “Years” may not mean years. Instead of indicating that each person lived hundreds of years, some say that the numbers indicates families or dynasties. Some translate years as generations or an undetermined period of time. This reasoning lacks any real contextual, language, or consistent arguments. Genesis 1 indicates that years are comprised of seasons which are regulated by the sun. The only reason one may try to change the years or numbers is to match other agendas. There is no textual president to doing so.

So if the numbers are accurate and are understood accurately, we must proceed with how to fit the numbers together. There is a textual indication that may support an extended timeline. This is related to the principles of sonship and genealogical gaps. It is textually supported that gaps do occur within many genealogies. This does not indicate inaccuracy. It indicates a different intended meaning. The problem with the basic gaps theory in Genesis 11 is that it applies gaps for no other reason than to match ancient archeological hypothesis. If we are to extend this timeline, it ought not be for human assumption, but for textual purpose.

I believe there are four major indicators that show the traditional interpretation (adding the years together) of the timeline within Genesis 11 is faulty. Again, this does not attack the historical veracity of the Bible. This is a reconsideration of how we understand what the text says.

The first indication that the numbers in Genesis 11 are not intended to be added together is that the author does not add them together. This may seem trite, but it is important. What indicates this as hazardous is the difference to Genesis 5. The pre-flood genealogy takes the first age and adds it to the second age to arrive at the total lifespan of the individual. Genesis 11 does not do so. We are only given the total age of Terah in this genealogy. Did the author forget how to count within six chapters? No, the reason must be purposeful. The intention was not to add the first to the second in Genesis 11. This means there is a fundamental difference in approach. If the lengths of life are not added together, we can make an argument that the ages of all individuals are not supposed to be added either.

The second indication is Luke’s appraisal of the generations. If Luke validates Cainan’s presence between Arpachshad and Shelah then we must come to an understanding other than the traditional. Unless Arpachshad and Cainan both averaged 17 years old, then Shelah would not have been born at Arpachshad’s 35th year. It is possible, but the fact that Genesis 11 doesn’t record Cainan means that the author does not intend to add up all the individuals.

The third and fourth indications are noticed with Noah and Terah. Noah is 500 years old when he “begot Shem, Ham, and Japheth.” The text says Noah entered the ark at 600 years old. This would make Shem 100. The flood lasted a year. But Genesis 11 says that Shem begot Arpachshad at 100 years old two years after the flood. If Arpachshad was born two years after the start of the flood, then Shem would have been born in Noah’s 502nd year. If Arpachshad was born two years after the end of the flood Shem would have been born closer to Noah’s 504th year. So did the author forget how to count again? This begins to pinpoint our misunderstanding.

What is the text intending to say about Noah’s 500th year? If we are consistent with the traditional interpretation of Genesis 11, then Shem, Ham, and Japheth were all three born in the same year. Shem’s name is listed first, but doesn’t have to indicate age. Genesis 10 lists Shem’s family last. Though this may be due to his significance, the genealogies in Genesis tend to provide the genealogies of related persons by age (note: Cain then Seth Gen 4-5; Ismael then Isaac Gen 25; Jacob then Esau because Jacob had birthright and blessing Gen 35-36; sons of Jacob Gen 46.) Is this a case of triplets or does this indicate that Noah’s 500th year does not have to correspond with the birth of Shem?

Terah is a mirror of Noah. He is also the 9th generation in the list, and has three sons. Abram, Haran, and Nahor are all said to have been born in Terah’s 70th year by the traditional reading. Stephen, however, in his commentary in Acts 7 says that Abram left Haran when Terah died. Genesis says Terah died at age 205. Genesis 12 says that Abram was 75 when he departed from Haran. This means Terah must have given birth to Abram at age 130, not 70. How can this be? Again the text implies that Haran is probably the oldest: Haran’s son is listed first and his death is significant to the family structure.

Putting all this together I believe reveals the key to interpreting the Genesis 11 chronology. If the first and last persons in the genealogy follow the same necessary pattern, it is likely that all names between them are subject to the same rules. I believe between Noah’s sons and Terah’s sons we see the implication that the age of the father does not have to correspond to the birth all children, but rather the first born. Noah’s first born was birthed at 500; the others followed. This allows for Shem to be 100, two years after the flood. Terah was 70 when he begot his first born. Abram was not born until Terah was 130. So here is the question. How confident are we that every child in Genesis 11 is the first born? If there is a possibility that the list is not exclusively first borns, then the first age of the fathers do not have to correspond to the child who is mentioned.

This theory makes sense of Noah’s sons, Terah’s sons, and Luke’s addition of Cainan. The post-child years make no difference to the chronology. It is most likely what it appears to be: how long the father lived after begetting that child which shows the theological lesson that sin brings death. But it is possible to pursue other interpretations. As far as the dating system is concerned, this theory opens up hundreds of years. We cannot pursue any specific time table, but could reasonably add as much as a hundred extra years to each generation if necessary.

Adapting the Biblical data to match ancient Egyptology and archeology is possible. If we do so, we must be willing to re-interpret the traditional reading. The post flood years indicate the birth of the first born or, in other words, when they started having children. The child who is mentioned is one of many “sons and daughters,” born at different times.

Genesis 11 Chronology – Solution One

Conform Egyptology to match Biblical records

So what can we make of this contradiction of historical timeframes? First we must ask the question: are the same standards of historicity being applied to the Bible and to Egyptology equally? The tendency is to apply stricter standards to what we have already decided to be wrong. This first reconciliation will focus on re-evaluating Egyptology data to match the Biblical apparent meaning.

There are some fundamental considerations of ancient Egyptology (as representative of other ancient cultures) that show that we ought not place our current knowledge of the data as absolute. We simply do not have the kind of data we need to prove absolute dates. Some will certainly interpret the data absolutely, but do so having already decided on an absolute time. (note a summary of Ancient Dating)

We must first recognize that neither Manetho nor any archeological find provide absolute dates. They only provide relational context. It is our modern theories that place the data into our absolute dating system. The first attempt has been the Sothic Cycle. This theory dates Manetho’s king lists based upon an astrological year called the Sothis. The theory is that Egyptians used this year as a fixed time from which to date events. Two legitimate problems exist with this dating method: sources disagree when the Sothis year was, and we have no evidence that Egypt used the Sothis year to date events. That ancient Egypt used the Sothis year is just a theory that became popular when Egyptology was a hot topic. Should they have used it, we must then choose a Sothis year. Scholars will assume the Sothis year and dating method to match the timeframe they believe works best. In the absense of the Sothis dating method, Egyptologists try to create new dating systems that match this general timeframe. I will not criticize the tedious efforts to date ancient Egypt, but we must be careful not to accept as fact what is actually just a theory.

Should a true starting point be validated, there is a second problem: our records of all lists are incomplete. For most written lists we rely on several key historians. With each historian is a different version of the work. If the lists conflict we have no way of knowing which list is original. When we try to consult all works and partial data, we must pick and choose which information is valid and which does not match. We have only educated guesses where and if lists overlap or meet. As with any investigation, we tend to match data and set aside others as it benefits our chosen result. Again, historians do the best they can, and probably do well, but we must take it for what it’s worth.

Should the traditional framework be validated there is another problem. We cannot be sure we are interpreting the data the way the original writers intended. When most historians look at lists of rulers, they understand them as consecutive. As studies within the chronology of Jewish kings proves, sometimes rulers overlap. Whether they overlap as father and son, king and prince, or rivals, not all lists of kings with reignal years can be read consecutively. We cannot assume that the numbers of reignal years in these lists can be added together. We also cannot know the context of the writing. I could pick up Tolkein’s appendices in a thousand years and not realize it’s nature. I am not suggesting all ancient data is worthless or fictional, but without context, data is difficult if not impossible to use.

If we come to an understanding of how to read the numbers, there is a fourth problem. We assume that these lists are historically accurate. Manetho himself was commissioned by Pharaoh to this task. Other historical data is also most likely recorded by the order of the rulers. We don’t know if this is something they did to the best of their abilities or just to keep their life and paycheck. We have to know whether we are dealing with the modern equivelant to a published encyclopedia or an un-peer reviewed wikipedia. We have no sources for our sources, and no easy way to counter-check our interpretation of the lists. It would be like relying on a modern clergyman (Manetho was a priest) to document every ruler of Palestine back to the time of Hezekiah (covering 2500 years) or a modern preacher being asked to document every major ruler in western civilization going back to the founding of Rome. These ancient authors would have had to interpret their sources with the same human calculations and limitations that we have for their data. History can be accurate and understandable with the proper context in mind. Ultimately we must admit that ancient secular dates, though historically possible, are not historically verified.

Matching Egyptian historical data to the traditional meaning of Biblical data is not difficult. Historically, 500 years is not that much to condense in this context. Validating historical persons is easy compared to establishing western dates to place them in. Once we are willing to admit fluid Egyptian dates, we see no need for absolute contradiction with Biblical data. Historical reconstruction can give us accurate information. But we must realize that any historical data is subject to interpretation. If we try to fit Historical data into predetermined limits of our version of history, we cannot hope to find truth. Egyptology can show many accurate things, but a western dating system is not one of its purposes.

Genesis 11 Chronology: Egyptian Data

Technically Egyptology is not the sole ancient culture to review. The Sumerians are believed to have predated the Egyptians. The difference is that we have no evidence about the ancient Sumerians other than pottery, building materials, and the tales of Gilgamesh. The hard objects we can try to date through analyzing the decay of various chemicals and ions. The proponents of this method of dating recognize the limitations of these dating procedures. Most will admit that the further back the dating process goes, the less accurate it becomes. Past a few thousand years, the variables become so unpredictable, that we must caution taking those dates as reliable by themselves. By cross-referencing contemporary data, ancient objects within a few thousand years from the present can be validated. The ancient Sumerian and Egyptian artifacts must have proven timeframes with which to cross reference. If scientific dating processes are the sole understanding for the timeframes past a few thousand years, we should be willing to let these dates be fluid.

The tales of Gilgamesh were written (supposedly) around the time of Abraham. The historical data within it mirrors stories from Genesis. Its writing style is designed as an epic rather than history. The Jewish Torah has a very different historical focus and literary style. Genesis intends to establish events and peoples who had direct impact on current readers. The Epic of Gilgamesh, unfortunately, is not able to identify dates or verified timelines. Its use for dating is at a stand still.

We arrive, then, at the data of the Egyptians. The ancient Egyptians can be commended for many written advancements. There are two primary sources that record their ancient history. One is written carvings found archeologically, the other is preserved writings. Examples of these are the Palermo Stone, the Turin Kinglist and the writings of Manetho. The early Egyptian framework we owe to Manetho, a third century priest. Manetho was charged by Ptollomy II to reconstruct a history of Egyptian rulers. Like most other ancient documents, we do not have the original. We have most of his work preserved by key historians like Josephus, Africanus, and Eusebius. His list is sumarized below.

              The apparent meaning is that the periods of the first six dynasties range from 1446-2405 years. Since there is no 20th century dating procedures in place, Manetho’s list is accompanied with a theory to establish solid dates. Using this list as a rough structure guide, Egyptologists have reconstructed all 18+ (many more) dynasties from archeology. The result is a list of kings/pharaohs by dynasty and length of reign that stretch back past 3000 BC. Many egyptologists will admit that these dates are fluid. Currently, fewer Egyptologiests hold to Manetho’s dates as canon. Instead, they use various similar documents. Legitimate debates exist trying to place together our fragmented data into a proper western context.

Portions of these lists are verified by archeological findings which retain ruler lists that overlap. These archeological findings by themselves cannot establish precise dates, but can give credence to ruler order and historical presence. Lists within archeology and documentation have similar characteristics to Manetho’s list. Most things that are said about Manetho’s list can be said of the rest of ancient lists. The academic world has agreed upon an Egyptian timeline which was first based from Manetho’s lists and then from archeological findings which cross-reference or clarify these periods. Before 3000ish BC we have no documentation other than scripture. So, past these lists and the artifacts that collaborate with them, we are at the limitations of scientific dating.

Genesis 11 Chronology: Genesis Data

The first goal in settling disputes is to clearly see both presentations. To that end we will begin by observing the data within Genesis 5 and 11. There are three sets of years which are established: The individual’s age at the birth of child, the years lived after birth, and the total years lived.
 

            The apparent meaning of this information is that Noah gave birth to his sons 1556 years after creation. Add 100 years to that date gives the time of the flood. Shem birthed Arpachshad two years after the flood (ended or started?). Giving wiggle room for Jewish counting methods places Issac’s birth around 2148-2188 years from creation. This apparent meaning of the text coupled with the accepted timeframe of Abraham’s life places the flood at about 2500BC. The problem most people see is the implication in Egyptology that their rulers go back as far as 3000BC and beyond.

Another consideration is the data within the Septuagint. Whereas its accuracy is in question, it is still the predominant text quoted in the NT. We must at least see what it has to offer. Below is the data of the Septuagint concerning Genesis 11 next to the Masoretic Hebrew.

 

 

In the Greek data we find extended dates for many of the persons. These number differences tend to stick to whole numbers like 100, 70, 50, 30. There is no expectation to match these numbers perfectly. Remember, the Septuagint is an egyptian-greek translation of Hebrew which is nowhere approved as a divinely historical translation. But it is sufficient to support the messages found within the New Testament. Lest we be too quick to dismiss all information, this is the only record of Cainan, which Luke adopts in Jesus’ genealogy. There is something historically credible that Luke found valid. Luke offers no comment on the numbers however. Remember that Data does not equal proof. We must interpret the data to arrive at an understanding of what the author meant. We will hold the interpretations of this data to a following article. Keep this data ready for analysis.

Numbers in Genealogies

Numbers play a significant literary role throughout the Bible, so it makes sense that they would find their way into Genealogies. If we can make an argument that not all numbers in the Bible have to be literal, then it is possible to make the same argument for numbers within Genealogies. There are several avenues that numbers can appear within this discussion: Ages of individuals, numbers of children, and numbers of generations.

Of the three, the numbers of Generations appears to be the most malleable of all the number sets. Both Matthew and Luke use this to their advantage in their genealogies of Jesus (Matthew 1:1). Matthew uses three sets of fourteen in the same way that one might use literal numbers. Yet it can be shown from the OT that Matthew clearly and quite intentionally skipped several generations.[2] He uses the number fourteen to accomplish a literary end. This end has few other connections except to the Hebrew designation for 14: which has the same letters as “David.”[3] Luke adds two names that are not found in the Jewish record in order to arrive at the number 77. Jesus is the 77th generation (from Adam if you include Joseph or from God if you exclude Joseph). The same types of patterns can be seen in the Genealogies preceding the flood as well as post Exodus. There are seven generations from Adam to Lamech through Cain, and seven generations from Seth to Lamach of Methuselah. There are eleven generations before the flood and eleven generations after the flood. There are also seven generations from Abram to the Exodus generation (in general). More on this topic is dealt with in a skipping generations discussion. The reason the authors choose these numbers is to drive home their point. Matthew’s point is that Jesus is the perfect successor of David. Luke’s point is that Jesus is the perfect human being both God and man. The points around the Genesis generations (the number 7) probably indicates God’s divine guidance of the events and nations (see Acts 17:26; Eph 3:15).

This leaves Ages and Family numbers as the two next most used number sets in genealogies. Although we would like to think that Family numbers are concrete or absolute figures, it can also be shown that they can be lucid or at least up to interpretation. To establish the principle, we shall note the children of Judah. 1 Chronicles 2:3-4 says that the “sons of Judah were five,” and lists them as: Er, Onan, Shelah, Perez, Terah. Later in chapter 4:1 it says the “sons of Judah were Perez, Hezron, Carmi, Hur, and Shobal.” Although five are listed in each, only one name is consistent. Upon investigation we see that the sons listed in chapter four are in consecutive order by generation, whereas chapter two lists a single generation. This principle applies to numbers in the case of the sons of Israel and their sons. In Genesis 46 when listing the numbers who went into Egypt, verses 15, 18, 22, and 25 all compress the sons and their sons into one number set that is applied to each wife. For instance, “These were the sons of Leah… all the persons, his sons and daughters: 33.” Yet even in that account there are no daughters mentioned, nor wives counted. The point is that even numbers of children can include or exclude persons as the author sees fit in order to accomplish his goal. There is no biblical discrepancy about this.

Lastly comes Ages within genealogies. This is limited to Genesis 5 and 11. No other Genealogy list uses ages like these two passages. In the recounting of names in 1 Chron, it does not even repeat the ages, even though it is using Genesis as a pattern. There is something specific, then, to the context of Genesis 5 and 11 that the author thought was worthy of ages. Since the other examples of numbers within genealogies have been shown as not always literal (not be confused with un-real), it is worth considering the possibility that numbers in Gen 5 and 11 could have alternative meanings also. The overall point of the passage is that: Time passes, and Mankind dies due to sin. There is very little correlation we can find to why the numbers are what they are. They follow no apparent pattern one to another,[4] and they are not rounded to any significant number set. When we look of figurative numbers we usually look for patterns and rounded figures. Since the author does not identify nor make a big deal out of the numbers, we should be hesitant to invent that motive for them. The easiest explanation from a literary standpoint is that they represent the accurate ages of the individuals, which are made important by the longevity of the lives yet their unavoidable death, save Enoch who lived the shortest of all.[5]

The argument for these numbers being figurative is based purely on historical grounds. Many historians severely doubt that the times would match with what we find in archeology and historical time frames (not to mention the scientific feat of living that long). The biggest discrepancy is the total time frame. When counted there is roughly one thousand years before the flood, and a thousand years after the flood to get to Abraham. This post flood timeframe leaves the entire eastern civilization only a thousand years to develop before Abraham encounters entire nations.[6] Egypt, being one of archeologist’s prize civilizations, appears to have history that far preexists this timeframe. Yet no scholar who holds to modern historical methods can adequately explain the ages presented in Genesis. Therefore until further historical evidence is found, I conclude that what Genesis indicates is accurate to it’s intended meaning.

I would suggest that using Genesis 5 and 11 for dating the earth is flawed due to context. The purpose of the author is not to date the world. With what we know about the selective nature of the authors toward history, I would assume that the author of Genesis 5 and 11 is not intending to give a full history report. The numbers in Genesis indicate ages, and I argue that these numbers themselves are accurate. Our understanding of how to fit them together I believe takes another study (see articles on Genesis 11 Chronology) This does not mean there can be no other explanation as to how our perception of history fits with this mold. But any time man’s knowledge is pitted against scripture, there is no question which side I will choose.

True history coincides with the Biblical narrative. Our understanding of both sides is growing. We should feel free to re-interpret History based on scripture and understand scripture in light of History. Concerning numbers within Genealogies we must treat them like numbers in the rest of scripture: when there are patterns and rounded numbers we should look for figurative meanings; when there is no pattern or rhyme to the number we simply take it for what it is.


[1] Matthew 1:1
[2] compare Matthew 1:8 to 2 Kings 8:16, 24; 11:2; 12:1; 14:1, 21; 15:7
[3] דוד = 4+6+4= 14. There is no connection to the answer to the universe: 42 as proposed in pop-culture, even though that is the number of generations
[4] Some argue that there is a remarkable correlation between the age of the father at birth and the age of the same father at death, subtracting the abnormal numbers like Noah and Enoch.
[5] Genesis 5:24
[6] This is actually feasible at the rate of population growth expected by God and culture. No mention of size of nations is made in the text. We would expect a significant number from the story of Babel, however. If each generation had ten children each at average beginning with 10 couples the generation after the flood, then by ten generations later you could theoretically have as many as 200 million people. At half that rate of growth to allow for death and gender you would have near 200 thousand, more than enough for empires and nations during the days of Abram.